Pre-Bird
by Charles Mingus

Pre-Bird by Charles Mingus
Year: 1961
Overall rank: 28,166th   Overall chart history
Average Rating: 
72/100 (from 25 votes)
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Award Top albums of 1961 (119th)
Award Top albums of the 1960s (1,693rd)
Award Best albums of all time (28,166th)

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Charles Mingus bestography

Pre-Bird is ranked 20th best out of 54 albums by Charles Mingus on BestEverAlbums.com.

The best album by Charles Mingus is The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady which is ranked number 91 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 12,716.

Charles Mingus album bestography « Higher ranked (21,488th)
Mingus At Antibes
This album (28,166th)
Pre-Bird
Lower ranked (30,355th) »
Mingus At Carnegie Hall

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Overall rank: 28,166th | 1960s rank: 1,693rd | 1961 rank: 119th

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03/07/2026 16:02 BoxFL  Ratings distribution  2,76751/100
 
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From 09/25/2022 14:29 | #289955
Genius of the bass does a difficult album for the casual jazz fab
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