Old Ramon
by Red House Painters

Old Ramon by Red House Painters
Year: 2001
Release date: 2001-04-10
Overall rank: 7,405th   Overall chart history
Average Rating: 
75/100 (from 67 votes)
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Accolades:
Award Top albums of 2001 (130th)
Award Top albums of of the 2000s (1,285th)
Award Best albums of all time (7,405th)

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Red House Painters bestography

Old Ramon is ranked 5th best out of 9 albums by Red House Painters on BestEverAlbums.com.

The best album by Red House Painters is Red House Painters (Rollercoaster) which is ranked number 710 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 2,426.

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Old Ramon
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Red House Painters (Bridge)

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  Track ratings The tracks on this album have an average rating of 79 out of 100 (all tracks have been rated).

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Overall rank: 7,405th | 2000s rank: 1,285th | 2001 rank: 130th  Overall chart history
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75/100 (from 67 votes)
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Rating:  
90/100
It is not as good or creative as its predecessors, but this is still a really solid album with some beautiful songs such as Void or River. 8/10. (Edited)
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Rating:  
85/100
After a lot of listens, this is easily my second favorite RHP album after Down Colorful Hill. It blends the peaceful folk sound of Ghost of the Great Highway with slowcore, the latter of which is especially prominent on "Kavita" and "Cruiser." It has some of the best songs Kozelek ever wrote with his band (though at this point the band was basically just him), including "Void," "Between Days," "Cruiser," and "Smokey." "Between Days has a riff that I could listen to for hours, and "Smokey" has some beautiful dueling guitars. It someone manages to be more focused than Songs for a Blue Guitar while being more varied and sounding more vital than either of the band's self-titled albums.
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Rating:  
70/100
Much brighter and happier than the average RHP fare. Some of the songs are really touching ("Whop-a-Din-Din" is the most touching song ever written about someone's cat). Other songs (I'm looking at you, "Void") go on WAY too long and are just plain cheesy. The album is, however, enjoyable.
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75/100
Worth the listen, definitely for the track "Cruiser", have that song on repeat. My favourite RHP, think Sun Kil Moon is a better project for Mark Kozelek
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