Old Ramon
by Red House Painters

Old Ramon by Red House Painters
Year: 2001
Release date: 2001-00-00
Overall rank: 6,959th   
Average Rating: 
75/100 (from 66 votes)
     
Accolades:
Award Top albums of 2001 (125th)
Award Top albums of the 2000s (1,205th)
Award Best albums of all time (6,959th)

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Red House Painters bestography

Old Ramon is ranked 5th best out of 9 albums by Red House Painters on BestEverAlbums.com.

The best album by Red House Painters is Red House Painters (Rollercoaster) which is ranked number 721 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 2,407.

Red House Painters album bestography « Higher ranked (3,698th)
Ocean Beach
This album (6,959th)
Old Ramon
Lower ranked (8,884th) »
Red House Painters (Bridge)

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Old Ramon track list

   The tracks on this album have an average rating of 79 out of 100 (all tracks have been rated).

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Old Ramon rankings

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Overall rank: 6,959th | 2000s rank: 1,205th | 2001 rank: 125th

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75/100 (from 66 votes)
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This album is rated in the top 8% of all albums on BestEverAlbums.com. This album has a Bayesian average rating of 75.2/100, a mean average of 75.6/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 75.6/100. The standard deviation for this album is 12.4.

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75/100
From 01/23/2021 17:26 | #264939
Worth the listen, definitely for the track "Cruiser", have that song on repeat. My favourite RHP, think Sun Kil Moon is a better project for Mark Kozelek
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From 01/16/2020 02:47 | #246880
After a lot of listens, this is easily my second favorite RHP album after Down Colorful Hill. It blends the peaceful folk sound of Ghost of the Great Highway with slowcore, the latter of which is especially prominent on "Kavita" and "Cruiser." It has some of the best songs Kozelek ever wrote with his band (though at this point the band was basically just him), including "Void," "Between Days," "Cruiser," and "Smokey." "Between Days has a riff that I could listen to for hours, and "Smokey" has some beautiful dueling guitars. It someone manages to be more focused than Songs for a Blue Guitar while being more varied and sounding more vital than either of the band's self-titled albums.
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90/100
From 05/23/2018 14:26 | #215472
It is not as good or creative as its predecessors, but this is still a really solid album with some beautiful songs such as Void or River. 8/10.
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From 02/21/2013 07:26 | #65710
Much brighter and happier than the average RHP fare. Some of the songs are really touching ("Whop-a-Din-Din" is the most touching song ever written about someone's cat). Other songs (I'm looking at you, "Void") go on WAY too long and are just plain cheesy. The album is, however, enjoyable.
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