R&B, Soul, & Funk Music: Competition and Discussion - Games

PurpleHazel

YoungPunk wrote:

Can we determine if a genre is dead by seeing if folks at the genre olympics gravitate around a few classic albums rather than wildly different lists?

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R&B overall is very much alive and well. Beyonce, Drake and Rihanna are doing just fine. Even Adele's loosely R&B.

Classic-style soul faded in the 80s. Then the neo-soul genre started in the 90s -- D'Angelo, Macy Gray, Erykah Badu etc. -- and is still going.

Funk faded in the late 80s and 90s -- Prince kept it going pretty well all by himself -- though it's still around, just isn't getting on the charts much.

Except for the 70s and Prince, R&B hasn't been a consistent album genre, so albums after the 70s are less likely to get on lists here.

Maybe your list will have more recent albums on it. Wink

YoungPunk

PurpleHazel wrote:

YoungPunk wrote:

Can we determine if a genre is dead by seeing if folks at the genre olympics gravitate around a few classic albums rather than wildly different lists?

Confused

R&B overall is very much alive and well. Beyonce, Drake and Rihanna are doing just fine. Even Adele's loosely R&B.

Classic-style soul faded in the 80s. Then the neo-soul genre started in the 90s -- D'Angelo, Macy Gray, Erykah Badu etc. -- and is still going.

Funk faded in the late 80s and 90s -- Prince kept it going pretty well all by himself -- though it's still around, just isn't getting on the charts much.

Except for the 70s and Prince, R&B hasn't been a consistent album genre, so albums after the 70s are less likely to get on lists here.

Maybe your list will have more recent albums on it. Wink

I don't want to rock the boat because I haven't given enough Motown as much of a shot as I want to...

AfterHours

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AfterHours wrote:

sethmadsen wrote:

Care to enter your top 10 (not hip-hop though) R&B/Soul/Funk entries into the competition?

https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...hp?t=20369

Sure! Though some of my selections might be considered borderline or too much an amalgam of genres to fit definitively into your requirements, so if thats the case, feel free to let me know what does qualify from my list and Ill revise accordingly by simply choosing the next entry down until I have 10 fitting selections.

1. Les Stances a Sophie – Art Ensemble of Chicago (1970)
2. We Insist! Freedom Now Suite - Max Roach (1960)
3. Rickie Lee Jones - Rickie Lee Jones (1979)
4. Purple Rain - Prince (1984)
5. Frizzle Fry - Primus (1990)
6. Friendly as a Hand Grenade - Tackhead (1989)
7. Buy - Contortions (1979)
8. The ArchAndroid - Janelle Monae (2010)
9. What's Going On - Marvin Gaye (1971)
10. Eli And The 13th Confession - Laura Nyro (1968)
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#1

Sign 'O' The Times by Prince

#2

Let's Get It On by Marvin Gaye

#3

Songs In The Key Of Life by Stevie Wonder

#4

Thriller by Michael Jackson

#5

I Remember Yesterday by Donna Summer

#6

The Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill by Lauryn Hill

#7

Dirty Mind by Prince

#8

Dusty In Memphis by Dusty Springfield

#9

Tell Mama by Etta James

#10

There's A Riot Goin' On by Sly & The Family Stone
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RoundTheBend
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AfterHours wrote:

sethmadsen wrote:

Care to enter your top 10 (not hip-hop though) R&B/Soul/Funk entries into the competition?

https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...hp?t=20369

Sure! Though some of my selections might be considered borderline or too much an amalgam of genres to fit definitively into your requirements, so if thats the case, feel free to let me know what does qualify from my list and Ill revise accordingly by simply choosing the next entry down until I have 10 fitting selections.

1. Les Stances a Sophie – Art Ensemble of Chicago (1970) Avant-garde jazz
2. We Insist! Freedom Now Suite - Max Roach (1960) Avant-garde jazz
3. Rickie Lee Jones - Rickie Lee Jones (1979) (Rock)
4. Purple Rain - Prince (1984) (R&B) 1
5. Frizzle Fry - Primus (1990) (Funk Metal... I may just allow this) 2
6. Friendly as a Hand Grenade - Tackhead (1989) (Funk) 3
7. Buy - Contortions (1979) (No Wave... having some origins in Funk... I'll allow) 4
8. The ArchAndroid - Janelle Monae (2010) (Alt R&B) 5
9. What's Going On - Marvin Gaye (1971) (Soul/R&B) 6
10. Eli And The 13th Confession - Laura Nyro (1968) (Pop; incorporates elements of soul, gospel, and rock) 7

Thanks! When I research the albums I put the genre it shows inline next to the year (according to Wikipedia).

If you want to submit 3 more that'd be just great.

RoundTheBend
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Thanks for the vote Mercury! I'll make sure to add to the tally.

Anyone have anymore singles? I love singles from this genre.

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YoungPunk wrote:

I don't want to rock the boat because I haven't given enough Motown as much of a shot as I want to...

Vote however you feel. If it is nothing pre-2010, all the better (if you so wish). Spice it up with your take, so long as you can trace each album back to R&B or Soul (funk traces back to those... for example). But if it traces back to another parent genre, probably move on to another album.

Having said that, Motown is some of the greatest music ever made...imo.

AfterHours

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sethmadsen wrote:

AfterHours wrote:

sethmadsen wrote:

Care to enter your top 10 (not hip-hop though) R&B/Soul/Funk entries into the competition?

https://www.besteveralbums.com/phpBB2/v...hp?t=20369

Sure! Though some of my selections might be considered borderline or too much an amalgam of genres to fit definitively into your requirements, so if thats the case, feel free to let me know what does qualify from my list and Ill revise accordingly by simply choosing the next entry down until I have 10 fitting selections.

1. Les Stances a Sophie – Art Ensemble of Chicago (1970) Avant-garde jazz
2. We Insist! Freedom Now Suite - Max Roach (1960) Avant-garde jazz
3. Rickie Lee Jones - Rickie Lee Jones (1979) (Rock)
4. Purple Rain - Prince (1984) (R&B) 1
5. Frizzle Fry - Primus (1990) (Funk Metal... I may just allow this) 2
6. Friendly as a Hand Grenade - Tackhead (1989) (Funk) 3
7. Buy - Contortions (1979) (No Wave... having some origins in Funk... I'll allow) 4
8. The ArchAndroid - Janelle Monae (2010) (Alt R&B) 5
9. What's Going On - Marvin Gaye (1971) (Soul/R&B) 6
10. Eli And The 13th Confession - Laura Nyro (1968) (Pop; incorporates elements of soul, gospel, and rock) 7

Thanks! When I research the albums I put the genre it shows inline next to the year (according to Wikipedia).

If you want to submit 3 more that'd be just great.

Wiki is a poor resource for genres (none are perfect but RYM is much better). Jazz genres are especially general... Les Stances has very strong funk/soul/R and B and Freedom Now Suite could be argued in the direction of Soul/R and B with only a little stretch (plus very influential on socio/politically conscious R and B/Soul that followed)... Rickie Lee Jones has strong Soul leanings but is arguable...

Anyway, 3 additional selections (if necessary) would make 10 as follows...

1. Purple Rain - Prince (1984)
2. Frizzle Fry - Primus (1990)
3. Friendly as a Hand Grenade - Tackhead (1989)
4. Buy - Contortions (1979)
5. The ArchAndroid - Janelle Monae (2010)
6. What's Going On - Marvin Gaye (1971)
7. Eli And The 13th Confession - Laura Nyro (1968)
8. The Reality of My Surroundings - Fishbone (1991)
9. The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill - Lauryn Hill (1998)
10. One Nation Under A Groove - Funkadelic (1978)
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AfterHours

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As a note, though Contortions' Buy is first and foremost No Wave/Punk, it is also a debauchery of Funk throughout -- practically every moment an homage & sexually crazed/frustrated/violent satire of James Brown.
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RoundTheBend
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No worries, thanks for the votes and feel free to discuss what you love about them if you so wish.

I'll tally this last top 10 you gave, even if I agree genre's are the worst science on the planet. When I look at RYC on those top three, the like 5th genre tag is in the realm... so it might be a bit of stretch. Some of the others are stretches too, but you like what you like and you label what you label.

If you have better inclusions than Buy - Contortions and The Reality of My Surroundings - Fishbone... possibly for Frizzle Fry - Primus, then great, if those are the ones you want to pick, that's great too... I like the diversity and part of this is to go broad, and to see everyone's interpretation of this non-science.