(Music From) The Elder
by Kiss

(Music From) The Elder by Kiss
Year: 1981
Overall rank: 40,497th   Overall chart history
Average Rating: 
63/100 (from 66 votes)
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Accolades:
Award Top albums of 1981 (520th)
Award Top albums of of the 1980s (4,760th)
Award Best albums of all time (40,497th)

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Kiss bestography

(Music From) The Elder is ranked 20th best out of 34 albums by Kiss on BestEverAlbums.com.

The best album by Kiss is Destroyer which is ranked number 1742 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 981.

Kiss album bestography « Higher ranked (38,492nd)
Asylum
This album (40,497th)
(Music From) The Elder
Lower ranked (45,805th) »
Psycho Circus

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(Music From) The Elder track list

  Track ratings The tracks on this album have an average rating of 73 out of 100 (all tracks have been rated).

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(Music From) The Elder rankings summary
Overall rank: 40,497th | 1980s rank: 4,760th | 1981 rank: 520th  Overall chart history
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Average Rating: 
63/100 (from 66 votes)
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From 08/13/2020 01:45 | #256973
The band was not afraid to experiment and nothing proves this more than this concept album produced by Bob Ezrin with Lou Reed as a co-writer on a few songs. I really enjoyed the change up and the music and playing is well done. A World Without Heroes is a classic track. I also really enjoy Under The Rose, The Oath, Mr Blackwell and I.
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75/100
From 09/20/2017 22:34 | #198396
The most divisive record among KISS fans. I rate it pretty high because if you go through it track by track there is too much great material. "The Oath" featured perhaps Paul's best vocal performance on a powerful metal track that feels both epic and cinematic. "Under The Rose" is a Gothic beauty combining choirs and power chords to great effect. "Dark Light" is a fantastic Ace song with a fantastic Ace solo. And then there's "A World Without Heroes." A beautiful song with heroic sentiments beautifully sung by...Gene.
Yea, the "concept' was silly. And Ezrin taking KISS into Pink Floyd territory was as bad an idea as the haircuts and new costumes, but I am very glad this record is in their catalog. I play it often.
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From 07/10/2016 11:29 | #171000
Even by Kiss standards this is pretty bad. Can you believe Lou Reed collaborated on this? A total mess, with a few half decent songs in there somewhere. (Edited)
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From 03/04/2016 13:47 | #161264
Crappy music to a crappy movie. (Edited)
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From 03/09/2014 18:22 | #105814
Even Gene and Paul hate this album. But still have very good tracks. Only You, Under The Rose, Dark Light, A Word Without Heroes and Mr. Blackwell are great songs, not the usual stuff for KISS but very good musically speaking. It is a pity that it does not have the credit that deserves.
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