Discipline (studio album) by King Crimson

Discipline by King Crimson
Year: 1981
Overall rank: 547th   Overall chart historyOverall chart history
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80/100 (from 550 votes)
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Award Top 5 albums of 1981 (3rd)
Award Top 100 albums of the 1980s (84th)
Award Top 1,000 albums of all time (547th)
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King Crimson bestography

Discipline is ranked 3rd best out of 82 albums by King Crimson on BestEverAlbums.com.

The best album by King Crimson is In The Court Of The Crimson King which is ranked number 25 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 35,149.

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Average Rating: 
80/100 (from 550 votes)
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This album is rated in the top 2% of all albums on BestEverAlbums.com. This album has a Bayesian average rating of 80.1/100, a mean average of 79.4/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 80.2/100. The standard deviation for this album is 13.8.

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75/100
From 09/07/2022 18:45
The influences are obvious (Talking Heads, Brian Eno) ane it is more experimental side of King Crimson, but enjoyable nonetheless.
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90/100
From 08/19/2022 05:17
A great album for having come after a lengthy break. A good mix of their classic prog sound and some more easy to access stuff!
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85/100
From 03/31/2022 08:14
A prog album per day saves the day!
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75/100
From 03/09/2022 19:27
I can hear in this album the evidence for influencing later bands (my ear hears elements that would later emerge from Primus and Alice In Chains). I suppose that makes Discipline an important record, but I’m not convinced the influence makes it a great record.

The spoken word lyrics are so, so dumb. And the lack of continuity from song to song makes it tough to truly enjoy.
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From 01/31/2022 13:01
Their best output during the '80s. Unbelievable how they radically changed their sound but remained King Crimson. Despite the fact that only Fripp and Bruford stayed.

Again KC paved the way for others to follow. Just listen to Elephant Talk and then to Jerry was a Racecar Driver from Primus. KC did it better though.

King Crimson shows how you can stay relevant as a 70's dinosaur. They simply pushed the music forward in another direction.
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75/100
From 02/26/2021 22:20
Pra falar a verdade eu não entendi bem esse álbum. Um new wave frenético? Um progressivo funkiado?
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From 12/05/2020 08:01
Been diggin this album for 40 years. Timeless, and awesomely weird.
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From 11/24/2019 11:52
It's a very busy album which leaves me feeling almost breathless after side 2 concludes. Not an album to put on if you want to relax. I get the references to Talking Heads and it works. What I like about King Crimson is that every album sounds like a different band and this is no exception. When I am in the right mood I really enjoy this, however, personally I prefer the jazzier offerings like Lizard.
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90/100
From 07/01/2019 20:01
I saw Adrian Belew play a bar in Iowa City in...had to be...1981 or 82. So, he had been on Sheik Yerbouti, Remain In Light, this album which everybody seemed to love...and there were maybe 300 people there, and he was playing with a recorded rhythm track so when we got him to do an encore, he just played the first two songs on the tape again. He said, "Who here remembers their first acid trip?" and we whooped and hollered. Amazingly small-time performance for a guy who could play arenas with three different world-class bands at the time.

His vocals and his whole personality just transformed what King Crimson was capable of--Americanized the whole operation, and for the good.

This album was completely on trend at the time, with the talky prose poem over music like Laurie Anderson etc, the Talking Heads-style funk on the opening track, the anagram song title like Eno had done, this was working out iterations of ideas that were in the air at the time. But Fripp was working out his own ideas musically, and his output in these years was very diverse, from his Frippertronics stuff to the album with Daryl Hall and the League of Gentlemen album.

He had done the spiritual study with JG Bennett, and he was coming out with all this diverse product, plus the alternate tuning, and pretty soon he started giving holistic guitar clinics to...anybody who wanted to sign up. Every interview he gave was like words from an oracle, and every album was an important statement. Discipline, for the crowd I was hanging with, was a monolithic, landmark album, we didn't so much listen to it as study it. Stands up pretty well after all these years.
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90/100
From 04/15/2019 23:33
Best track: "Frame By Frame"
Weakest track: "Indiscipline"
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Best Albums of 1981
1. Moving Pictures by Rush
2. Computerwelt [Computer World] by Kraftwerk
3. Discipline by King Crimson
4. Juju by Siouxsie And The Banshees
5. My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts by Brian Eno & David Byrne
6. Time by Electric Light Orchestra
7. Faith by The Cure
8. Dare by The Human League
9. Damaged by Black Flag
10. Fire Of Love by The Gun Club
11. Deceit by This Heat
12. Youth Of America by Wipers
13. Ghost In The Machine by The Police
14. Tattoo You by The Rolling Stones
15. The Ascension by Glenn Branca
16. Heaven Up Here by Echo & The Bunnymen
17. Face Value by Phil Collins
18. Killers by Iron Maiden
19. Movement by New Order
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