Discipline (studio album) by King Crimson

Discipline
Discipline by King Crimson
Year: 1981
Overall rank: 554th   Overall chart historyOverall chart history
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80/100 (from 452 votes)
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King Crimson bestography

Discipline is ranked 3rd best out of 73 albums by King Crimson on BestEverAlbums.com.

The best album by King Crimson is In The Court Of The Crimson King which is ranked number 27 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 38,160.

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Average Rating: 
80/100 (from 452 votes)
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This album is rated in the top 2% of all albums on BestEverAlbums.com. This album has a Bayesian average rating of 80.4/100, a mean average of 79.4/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 80.5/100. The standard deviation for this album is 14.1.

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From 11/24/2019 11:52
It's a very busy album which leaves me feeling almost breathless after side 2 concludes. Not an album to put on if you want to relax. I get the references to Talking Heads and it works. What I like about King Crimson is that every album sounds like a different band and this is no exception. When I am in the right mood I really enjoy this, however, personally I prefer the jazzier offerings like Lizard.
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From 07/01/2019 20:01
I saw Adrian Belew play a bar in Iowa City in...had to be...1981 or 82. So, he had been on Sheik Yerbouti, Remain In Light, this album which everybody seemed to love...and there were maybe 300 people there, and he was playing with a recorded rhythm track so when we got him to do an encore, he just played the first two songs on the tape again. He said, "Who here remembers their first acid trip?" and we whooped and hollered. Amazingly small-time performance for a guy who could play arenas with three different world-class bands at the time.

His vocals and his whole personality just transformed what King Crimson was capable of--Americanized the whole operation, and for the good.

This album was completely on trend at the time, with the talky prose poem over music like Laurie Anderson etc, the Talking Heads-style funk on the opening track, the anagram song title like Eno had done, this was working out iterations of ideas that were in the air at the time. But Fripp was working out his own ideas musically, and his output in these years was very diverse, from his Frippertronics stuff to the album with Daryl Hall and the League of Gentlemen album.

He had done the spiritual study with JG Bennett, and he was coming out with all this diverse product, plus the alternate tuning, and pretty soon he started giving holistic guitar clinics to...anybody who wanted to sign up. Every interview he gave was like words from an oracle, and every album was an important statement. Discipline, for the crowd I was hanging with, was a monolithic, landmark album, we didn't so much listen to it as study it. Stands up pretty well after all these years.
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From 04/15/2019 23:33
Best track: "Frame By Frame"
Weakest track: "Indiscipline"
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95/100
From 02/09/2019 16:35
It's the most underrated and underappreciated album of its time. Once again, King Crimson draws the blueprint for about a half dozen subgenres of music with a mammoth release that takes a few cutting-edge musical ideas and runs with them. 1969's ITCOTCK forged a new genre out of The Moody Blues and Pink Floyd; 1981's Discipline forged a new genre out of Talking Heads, David Bowie, and The Police. It could very well feature some of the best musicianship and the most creative songwriting on any rock album, regardless of subgenre.
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From 01/10/2019 00:43
Reminds me of Remain in Light, and has the same type of frantic energy that makes that album amazing.
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From 03/06/2018 02:14
After the first track, I was not expecting much from this album. However, there were some enjoyable songs from then on. By the end, I saw that two long instrumentals were coming, and was a little excited. I was mildly let down though, as they were fairly bland. Overall, Matte Kundesai and Indiscipline are the only tracks I would consider worth coming back to. They seem to pull off the new wave sound pretty well, but the songwriting in general is lacking for too large a portion of the album
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70/100
From 11/18/2017 13:17
I really wanted to love this album, the sick poli-rhythms and brilliant instrumental work from everyone makes it a masterpiece, but th talking segments are just boring, and happens in almost every song that it´s not instrumental. But a good album nonetheless.
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From 05/11/2017 10:50
I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres, I repeat!
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From 03/27/2017 03:42
Best definition of progressive-rock album
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From 03/03/2017 05:30
Un estilo bastante diferente a lo que anteriormente había presentado King Crimson, en cierta manera puedo relacionarlo más parecido a los Talking Heads e incluso a The Police, lo cual no lo hace algo malo, sino más bien algo curioso de señalar
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Best Albums of 1981
1. Moving Pictures by Rush
2. Computerwelt [Computer World] by Kraftwerk
3. Discipline by King Crimson
4. My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts by Brian Eno & David Byrne
5. Time by Electric Light Orchestra
6. Juju by Siouxsie And The Banshees
7. Faith by The Cure
8. Damaged by Black Flag
9. Dare by The Human League
10. Fire Of Love by The Gun Club
11. Ghost In The Machine by The Police
12. Deceit by This Heat
13. Heaven Up Here by Echo & The Bunnymen
14. Tattoo You by The Rolling Stones
15. The Ascension by Glenn Branca
16. Youth Of America by Wipers
17. Killers by Iron Maiden
18. Movement by New Order
19. Face Value by Phil Collins
20. Escape by Journey
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