Face Value
by Phil Collins

Album
Face Value by Phil Collins
Year: 1981
Release date: 1981-02-13
Overall rank: 1,303rd   Overall chart history
Average Rating: 
73/100 (from 315 votes)
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Accolades:
Award Top 20 albums of 1981 (17th)
Award Top albums of of the 1980s (209th)
Award Best albums of all time (1,303rd)

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Face Value is ranked as the best album by Phil Collins.

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Face Value track list

  Track ratings The tracks on this album have an average rating of 80 out of 100 (all tracks have been rated).

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In The Air Tonight
Average Rating: 91 (199 votes)Comments: View 6
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This Must Be Love
Average Rating: 80 (82 votes)Comments: View 3
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Behind The Lines
Average Rating: 80 (75 votes)Comments: View 2
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The Roof Is Leaking
Average Rating: 78 (72 votes)Comments: View 2
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Droned
Average Rating: 79 (66 votes)Comments: View 2
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Hand In Hand
Average Rating: 78 (68 votes)Comments: View 1
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I Missed Again
Average Rating: 81 (86 votes)Comments: View 1
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You Know What I Mean
Average Rating: 77 (67 votes)Comments: View 1
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Thunder And Lightning
Average Rating: 79 (65 votes)Comments: View 1
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I'm Not Moving
Average Rating: 76 (63 votes)Comments: View 1
11.
If Leaving Me Is Easy
Average Rating: 80 (70 votes)Comments: View 1
12.
Tomorrow Never Knows
Average Rating: 81 (77 votes)Comments: View 3

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Face Value rankings

Face Value rankings summary
Overall rank: 1,303rd | 1980s rank: 209th | 1981 rank: 17th  Overall chart history
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Face Value forum mentions

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From BestEverAlbums 08/14/2026 08:00 in Chart of the day (#5404): By pctrooper
“Today's chart of the day Top 100 Greatest Music Albums by pctrooper () 1. (1975) 3. by (2008) 4. by (2000) 5. by (1974) 6. by (1978) 7. by (1979) 8. by (1971) 9. (1994) 10. by (1973) 11. by (1977) 13. by (1976) 14. by by (2019) 16. by (1973) 18. by (1969) 19. by (1974) 20. by (2015) 21. by (1996)…”
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From Fischman 11/02/2024 16:07 in The Romanelli Music Diary: Waiting For The Sun
“2182 PHIL COLLINS FACE VALUE 1981 – ATLANTIC Produced By PHIL COLLINS & HUGH PADGHAM 1. In The Air Tonight 2. This Must Be Love 3. Behind The Lines 4. The Roof Is Leaking 5. Droned 6. Hand In Hand 7. I Missed Again 8. You Know What I Mean 9. Thunder And Lightning 10. I’m Not Moving 11. If Leaving…”
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Face Value comments

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From 05/09/2016 22:16 | #165603 | TOP COMMENT Help Vote up your preferred comments and the comments with the most votes will be flagged.
People have 3 faces: The one you show to society, the one that you show yourself, and the one you have when you listen to Phill Collins. (Edited)
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90/100
From 06/06/2018 16:07 | #216224 | TOP COMMENT Help Vote up your preferred comments and the comments with the most votes will be flagged.
I like Phil Collins but like many in the 80's got sick of seeing him as he inundated the album charts with solo albums, Genesis work, on other artists records, movies (Buster), Live Aid (both UK and US), etc. you get the drift. I haven't recovered from this saturation decades later. I only own this record and Hello I Must Be Going, by the time Sussudio came out I was done. Face Value is the exception, I still listen to this album on a regular basis. It balances the arty prog style with Phil's more pop side and works better than most of the pop oriented Genesis material - I prefer it to Abacab, Genesis, or any of their later albums. Its a diverse collection of songs that I don't tire of, a shame he moved towards more pop and ballads.
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From 03/15/2016 17:50 | #161982 | TOP COMMENT Help Vote up your preferred comments and the comments with the most votes will be flagged.
Not enough alt rock on this album for many here :P
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From 05/11/2016 00:02 | #165693 | TOP COMMENT Help Vote up your preferred comments and the comments with the most votes will be flagged.
Crimson; what the hell are you talking about?
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From 01/20/2016 12:06 | #157092 | TOP COMMENT Help Vote up your preferred comments and the comments with the most votes will be flagged.
Love "In The Air Tonight" and "The Roof Is Leaking." Always wondered what In The Air Tonight would have sounded like had Genesis not dismissed it from their album "Genesis." If you like Phil Collins pop this is a very good album. Always wondered if putting Phil Collins' mug on the cover was a response to Peter Gabriel putting his mug on his album covers.
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