Face Value (studio album) by Phil Collins

Face Value
Face Value by Phil Collins
Year: 1981
Overall rank: 1,353rd   Overall chart historyOverall chart history
Average Rating: 
73/100 (from 247 votes)
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Award Top 20 albums of 1981 (18th)
Award Top albums of the 1980s (212th)
Award Best albums of all time (1,353rd)
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Average Rating: 
73/100 (from 247 votes)
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90/100
From 06/06/2018 16:07
I like Phil Collins but like many in the 80's got sick of seeing him as he inundated the album charts with solo albums, Genesis work, on other artists records, movies (Buster), Live Aid (both UK and US), etc. you get the drift. I haven't recovered from this saturation decades later. I only own this record and Hello I Must Be Going, by the time Sussudio came out I was done. Face Value is the exception, I still listen to this album on a regular basis. It balances the arty prog style with Phil's more pop side and works better than most of the pop oriented Genesis material - I prefer it to Abacab, Genesis, or any of their later albums. Its a diverse collection of songs that I don't tire of, a shame he moved towards more pop and ballads.
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From 01/24/2017 14:20
Tier List for my preferences of the tracks on this album:

Top: 1-12
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95/100
From 07/02/2016 17:08
The Roof Is Leaking is the forgotten gem of this album.
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80/100
From 05/11/2016 00:02
Crimson; what the hell are you talking about?
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75/100
From 05/09/2016 22:16
People have 3 faces: The one you show to society, the one that you show yourself, and the one you have when you listen to Phill Collins.
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80/100
From 04/15/2016 17:00
This is Collins', blood on the tracks, his break up record. It's really a mixture of Collins' more arty sounds and his more commercial songs. Obviously, in the air tonight, is fantastic, an early 80's classic. This must be love, is also an excellent track. There's a some other great moments here too, especially the, the roof is leaking/droned/hand in hand sequence. Occasionally, Collins slips into that poppy groove, but thankfully there's nothing bad here, the cover of The Beatles, tomorrow never knows, is very good, it sticks true to the original, but Collins makes it his own too. This really is the Phil Collins album for people who don't like Phil Collins. It's not perfect, and it probably could have been a lot better, but still, it's very good.
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90/100
From 03/15/2016 17:50
Not enough alt rock on this album for many here :P
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80/100
From 01/20/2016 12:06
Love "In The Air Tonight" and "The Roof Is Leaking." Always wondered what In The Air Tonight would have sounded like had Genesis not dismissed it from their album "Genesis." If you like Phil Collins pop this is a very good album. Always wondered if putting Phil Collins' mug on the cover was a response to Peter Gabriel putting his mug on his album covers.
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90/100
From 08/27/2015 16:26
Very good album that happens to be underrated
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70/100
From 07/28/2013 20:03
Could have been so interesting... could have been the start of a dynamic solo career... but there's too much filler on this album, and his subsequent work follows the 'filler' trend.
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Best Albums of 1981
1. Moving Pictures by Rush
2. Computerwelt [Computer World] by Kraftwerk
3. Discipline by King Crimson
4. My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts by Brian Eno & David Byrne
5. Time by Electric Light Orchestra
6. Juju by Siouxsie And The Banshees
7. Damaged by Black Flag
8. Faith by The Cure
9. Dare by The Human League
10. Fire Of Love by The Gun Club
11. Deceit by This Heat
12. Ghost In The Machine by The Police
13. Heaven Up Here by Echo & The Bunnymen
14. Tattoo You by The Rolling Stones
15. The Ascension by Glenn Branca
16. Youth Of America by Wipers
17. Killers by Iron Maiden
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19. Movement by New Order
20. Nightclubbing by Grace Jones
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