Face Value (studio album)
by Phil Collins
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Face Value is ranked as the best album by Phil Collins.
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The tracks on this album have an average rating of 80 out of 100 (all tracks have been rated).
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| Rating | Date updated | Member | Album ratings | Avg. album rating |
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| ! | 8 hours ago | classicjoe | 58 | 80/100 |
| ! | 11/12/2025 23:15 | NYAndreas | 1,432 | 43/100 |
| ! | 11/06/2025 11:37 | Exist-en-ciel | 4,099 | 70/100 |
| ! | 10/29/2025 16:37 | tim0505 | 4,341 | 82/100 |
| ! | 10/07/2025 02:20 | JacobMullis | 723 | 88/100 |
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This album has a Bayesian average rating of 72.4/100, a mean average of 70.9/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 72.4/100. The standard deviation for this album is 17.8.
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It is sad how underrated Collins solo work has become, especially when compared to his long and brilliant stint with Genesis. This album is one of his very best and still stands out as an early 1980s classic.
Very good album, Droned kinda breaks it up a little bit. Some of the tracks feel like he’s got to powerful vocals to be singing these songs. But still good.
Squonk007 08/22/2022 16:56 | #288836
This is a tremendous album and for a debut right up there with the very best. I never tire of listening to it from the iconic opening track to the superb Beatles cover at the end. The choice of musicians is inspired. The basswork is superb but it's the subtle drumming, powerful, masterful and showing great touch and feel which lifts the album.
Sobresaliente debut de Phil Collins en solitario.
I like Phil Collins but like many in the 80's got sick of seeing him as he inundated the album charts with solo albums, Genesis work, on other artists records, movies (Buster), Live Aid (both UK and US), etc. you get the drift. I haven't recovered from this saturation decades later. I only own this record and Hello I Must Be Going, by the time Sussudio came out I was done. Face Value is the exception, I still listen to this album on a regular basis. It balances the arty prog style with Phil's more pop side and works better than most of the pop oriented Genesis material - I prefer it to Abacab, Genesis, or any of their later albums. Its a diverse collection of songs that I don't tire of, a shame he moved towards more pop and ballads.
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The Roof Is Leaking is the forgotten gem of this album.
Crimson; what the hell are you talking about?
People have 3 faces: The one you show to society, the one that you show yourself, and the one you have when you listen to Phill Collins.
This is Collins', blood on the tracks, his break up record. It's really a mixture of Collins' more arty sounds and his more commercial songs. Obviously, in the air tonight, is fantastic, an early 80's classic. This must be love, is also an excellent track. There's a some other great moments here too, especially the, the roof is leaking/droned/hand in hand sequence. Occasionally, Collins slips into that poppy groove, but thankfully there's nothing bad here, the cover of The Beatles, tomorrow never knows, is very good, it sticks true to the original, but Collins makes it his own too. This really is the Phil Collins album for people who don't like Phil Collins. It's not perfect, and it probably could have been a lot better, but still, it's very good.
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