Substance
by New Order
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New Order bestography
Substance is ranked 2nd best out of 32 albums by New Order on BestEverAlbums.com.
The best album by New Order is Power, Corruption & Lies which is ranked number 252 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 6,248.
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Substance track list
The tracks on this album have an average rating of 87 out of 100 (all tracks have been rated).
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Substance rankings
Calculated from aggregate positions across 60,000 charts (2 million album rankings). Click to see how the rankings are calculated (Last updated: 7 hours ago)
| Year | Source | Chart | Rank | Rank Score |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2026 | blueandthemoon | Top 27 Music Albums of 1987 | 18/27 | 2 |
| 2026 | Top 100 Greatest Music Albums | 47/100 | 50 | |
| 2026 | Top 100 Music Albums of the 1980s | 79/100 | 4 | |
| 2026 | ornot27 | Top 66 Music Albums of the 1980s | 28/66 | 12 |
| 2026 | Top 50 Music Albums of 1987 | 17/50 | 3 | |
| 2026 | shanelovesyou1111 | Top 73 Music Albums of 1987 | 25/73 | 3 |
| 2026 | LittleM1971 | Top 94 Music Albums of 1987 | 14/94 | 4 |
| 2026 | saltysurprise | Top 70 Music Albums of 1987 | 1/70 | 5 |
| 2026 | Top 100 Music Albums of 1987 | 3/100 | 5 | |
| 2026 | Top 100 Greatest Music Albums | 66/100 | 32 | |
| Total Charts: The total number of charts that this album has appeared in. | 347 | |||
| Total Rank Score: The total rank score. | 2,936 | |||
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Substance ratings
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| Rating | Date updated | Member | Album ratings | Avg. album rating |
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| ! | 09/04/2026 13:57 | bonnequestion | 1,701 | 70/100 |
| ! | 08/27/2026 23:09 | Melway94 | 118 | 83/100 |
| ! | 08/14/2026 21:58 | JamesMowbray | 5,708 | 69/100 |
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This album is rated in the top 1% of all albums on BestEverAlbums.com. This album has a Bayesian average rating of 83.6/100, a mean average of 82.1/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 83.9/100. The standard deviation for this album is 15.8.
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Let me try and put this into context: you have a band that changed the definition of what an indie rock/alternative band could be, pioneered the new wave genre, released a number of songs that become club classics and have since gone onto to define electronica and dance music.
And then, you take all of their best work, their biggest hits, a couple of remixes and some previously unheard work, and put into a double album which has one of the best names for an album ever.
The result is Substance.
This isn't just some compilation or 'best of' album; it's the New Order bible.
just picked this up from a record fair. Been playing this all night. Had forgotten how good it is. A must for fans of post-punk dance music.
Agree with most of the other comments, the first disc of Substance (up through True Faith) is unbelievable, better than any New Order studio album imo, the tracks are in chronological order and this gives the listener a great sense of the band's progression throughout the 80s.
“Blue Monday” was so ahead of its time, it’s not even fair. (Edited)
One of the best compilation album ever
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