Adore (album) by The Smashing Pumpkins

Adore
Adore by The Smashing Pumpkins
Year: 1998
Overall rank: 746th   Overall chart historyOverall chart history
Average Rating: 
77/100 (from 455 votes)
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Accolades:
Award Top 20 albums of 1998 (11th)
Award Top albums of the 1990s (139th)
Award Top 1,000 albums of all time (746th)
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Adore is ranked 3rd best out of 18 albums by The Smashing Pumpkins on BestEverAlbums.com.

The best album by The Smashing Pumpkins is Siamese Dream which is ranked number 54 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 24,581.

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This album is rated in the top 6% of all albums on BestEverAlbums.com. This album has a mean average rating of 76.0/100. The trimmed mean (excluding outliers) is 76.6/100. The standard deviation for this album is 14.6.

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From 03/18/2019 10:59
There are a lot of criticisms regarding this album, such as obvious opportunities to cut some of the worst tracks. "17", "Annie Dog", "A Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete", "Once Upon a Time", and "Pug" all stand out to me as being less than stellar - if nothing else, they don't improve the album's overall cohesiveness (in my estimation, although I know a lot of you might have differing opinions on this). While Adore is definitely a turning point for The Smashing Pumpkins, in terms of stylist direction, I'm not convinced that Mellon Collie is exempt from experiencing similar problems - "Tales of a Scorched Earth", "Take Me Down", and "Fuck You" are frustratingly obnoxious to me personally, even if they required exceptional talent to perform and produce.

Inconsistencies among the tracks set aside, when I reflect on Adore-period Smashing Pumpkins, instead of "Ava Adore", I actually connect it with vulnerable and meditative pieces like "Crestfallen", "Shame", "Behold!", "To Sheila", and "For Martha". Scaling back the tempo and intensity to "Starlight" and "Farewell and Goodnight" levels from the ending of their prior album two years earlier, and with smart restraint, Corgan and The Smashing Pumpkins find footing in relate-able content involving the struggles that people endure on a daily basis - the fear of being ostracized by your peers (like in "Shame"); resolving the internal grief from suffering a family member's death; or realizing the loss of a romantic partner's requited love as a divide forms and deepens.

While none of the selections on Adore quite exceeded the song-writing quality of "Disarm", "Thru the Eyes of Ruby", or "Porcelina of the Vast Seas", nor exceeded the popularity of "1979" or "Today", their intimacy still resonates with me, even as I've advanced in age into my late 20s. The poetic expressions of acceptance in "To Sheila" caress our ears with vivid imagery, opening us to the option of envisioning a swirling nightscape of beauty and love and connection, to gently-picked strings and loftily aerie vocal acumen, that then tragically crumbles to nothing beyond all control. The narrator professes "you make me real" to Shiela, not with a demanding tone for an audience, but with one of acknowledgment. In an idyllic conception, he evokes the possibility of "bring[ing] [her] the light" and "tak[ing] [her] home into the night", but it doesn't reflect the reality, which is better captured with phrases like "uncertain divine" and "scream into the divide". The maturity of these pastoral verses, by virtue of identifying the duality of ideality versus reality, echoes the desires of people to bring happiness to those they love, but with whom they aren't able to foster a lasting and meaningful relationship for various reasons (such as unrequited love). Similar themes are prevalent throughout the album, with honorable-mention lyricism particularly in "Daphne Descends". And this poetic content has contributed to Adore remaining relevant and aging well into the new millennium.

The album later makes headway into even more funerial exploration, covering what could be described as a multi-song ode to Corgan's mother, which consists an ardent posthumous piano ballade "For Martha" (until it breaks down in spectacular fashion midway through its ambitious 8.5 minute runtime), as well as a less apparent but also impacting sister song "Behold! The Night Mare" which immediately prefaces it. In addition to the word play in which Corgan wails "the night mare rides on!", channeling every fiber of melancholy manageable to the human vocal folds, and evocative of a permanent living nightmare, this piece also makes an important metaphoric statement about how time and experience continue without regard to lost loved ones. Grappling with his mother's death, Corgan agonizes over perpetually prettifying her grave, and helplessly, futilely, and rhetorically wonders how he can find solutions, meaning, and relief in the face of inevitable things in the human experience, like death and separation.

These many forms of introspection make Adore special, and more profound than most critics give it credit. It's possible that The Smashing Pumpkin's departure of their former sound influenced critics' opinions, as much as Corgan's mis-marketing influenced the album's poor sales on the marketplace at the time of its first release. I have to admit, it does suffer from its sprawling length, which might not be fully justified, and it could've benefited with additional song curation. Regardless, it brought us some incredible and moving tracks with fantastic replay value!
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65/100
From 02/24/2019 20:58
Certainly bloated, but I don't buy the criticism that there aren't any standout tracks here. To Sheila, Ava Adore, Perfect is my favorite start to any Pumpkins album, and Appels + Oranjes is possibly the most underrated Pumpkins track ever released. Unfortunately, Adore is the last good Pumpkins album ever released, and you can tell they are slowly starting to run out of ideas.
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70/100
From 10/28/2018 06:47
Some beautiful slow songs are still on here, but overall they’ve lost their spark from this moment. Which I REALLY lament. I’ve returned often to this album hoping it would suddenly click with me, but no.
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90/100
From 08/20/2018 20:51
Definitely a polarizing album. I used to be on the fence about this one.. and after my first few listens I leaned towards not liking it so much and put it on the back burner. Upon seeing them live on their Shiny Oh So Bright Tour, and finding a nice used original copy on vinyl, I gave it a little revisiting.

If you like songs in the vein of Sweet Sweet, Spaceboy, or Cupid, Lily, Beautiful, Farewell... etc. you’d might like this album. I will say the musical direction is obviously different than previous albums, which could be hard to adapt to at first. Some of the effects, production, and drums are a little weird in some places... at least for what I like in The Smashing Pumpkins... really shows how valuable Jimmy Chamberlain was.

With that being said, this album is consistently pretty good with sprinkles of greatness throughout. Not among their best albums, but not worse than some would say, and I definitely don’t hate it by any means. If you’re a SP fan, or maybe more so of Billy Corgan you’ll probably like this album
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30/100
From 04/21/2018 10:25
The first 2/3rds of Siamese Dream is brilliant and some of the best 90s alt rock you'll ever hear. But it was a case of diminishing returns from there on out with the Pumpkins.

Mellon Collie was a bloated double album with some great highs (like 'Bullet with Butterfly Wings' and 'Zero') but just as many misses. I personally never got the appeal of the inexplicably popular '1979' with its radio-friendly and safe light rock sound and bland lyrics. At least the popularity of 'Tonight, Tonight' is partially explained by it having a kick ass music video. Neither song is bad per se; it's just we'd already heard they were capable of so much better in Siamese Dream. Listen to '79 or TT and then listen to 'Soma' and you'll understand exactly what I mean.

Adore finds them slipping even further, with 'Ava Adore' being the only standout track here. Two other singles - 'Perfect' and 'Crestfallen' - were released but kind of flatlined. The best song they made around this same time was actually Eye, which ended up being used in David Lynch's Lost Highway and is on that film's soundtrack album.
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80/100
From 11/24/2016 20:42
This wasn't experiment for experiments sake - they binned Jimmy (because of his personal problems) and decided not to replace him with another drummer. I like the fact they did that, almost out of respect because, let's face it the best SP songs are when BC and JC bang it all about. Good on 'em. Still a good album and personally I prefer this to Siamese Dream and Machina, although I do admit it isn't quite the same Jimmy-less.
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80/100
From 07/22/2016 03:20
Now that almost 20 years have passed, we can realize that this a good album. The A side is clearly better than the B side, but the last one has For Martha that is a great tune. The other highlights are the single (Ava Adore), Daphne Descends and perhaps the best one, Tear. What a song!
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50/100
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45/100
From 01/29/2016 15:49

Don't get me wrong- I LOVE the Smashing Pumpkins and Mr Corgan

However I just don't get this album

I have tried to listen to it and get in to it but it hasn't happened yet

Ava adore is a great song, but apart from that I've never got into anything else on it

Siamese, machina, teargarden, melloncollie, Oceania, gish etc I love - but not this one yet

It just all seems a little flat

Maybe one day in will see the light
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75/100
From 11/19/2015 03:14
The problem with this album is the opposite of Machina ; There is no bad songs on it, but there's also not a single killer track. A good album all the way through but there's a chance any of your top 20 Pumpkins songs aren't on it.
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