Chinese Democracy (studio album)
by Guns N' Roses

Chinese Democracy by Guns N' Roses
Year: 2008
Release date: 2008-11-25
Overall rank: 5,980th   
Average Rating: 
56/100 (from 231 votes)
     
Accolades:
Award Top albums of 2008 (93rd)
Award Top albums of the 2000s (1,037th)
Award Best albums of all time (5,980th)

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Guns N' Roses bestography

Chinese Democracy is ranked 6th best out of 9 albums by Guns N' Roses on BestEverAlbums.com.

The best album by Guns N' Roses is Appetite For Destruction which is ranked number 117 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 11,221.

Guns N' Roses album bestography « Higher ranked (4,776th)
Use Your Illusion (Compilation)
This album (5,980th)
Chinese Democracy
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Chinese Democracy track list

   The tracks on this album have an average rating of 74 out of 100 (all tracks have been rated).

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Chinese Democracy rankings

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Overall rank: 5,980th | 2000s rank: 1,037th | 2008 rank: 93rd

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Average Rating: 
56/100 (from 231 votes)
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This album has a Bayesian average rating of 56.3/100, a mean average of 55.6/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 55.6/100. The standard deviation for this album is 21.7.

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70/100
From 11/07/2025 22:56 | #311599
I feel this album has been given a bad rap. Axl Rose has an unmistakable voice which at times can sound very whiny. But the good thing with this is that he seems to have toned it down on most songs. And since he was the only original member on this, the songs have a slightly different sound and feel. It's not bad but also nothing memorable. It's basically heavier edged background music.
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From 04/07/2025 21:16 | #308397
Makes Metallica’s St. Anger sound like Led Zeppelin IV in comparison. Not a good album at all.
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70/100
From 09/22/2020 16:57 | #258543
This is so far from "Appetite For Destruction"! It is almost on another planet. Very few highlights. Disappointing after waiting for so long. Rating (73.21)
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From 08/19/2020 15:45 | #257210
Two stars only due to Tommy Stinson's bass playing. With no Stinson - no stars.
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55/100
From 04/16/2018 06:10 | #213007
I don't think it's as bad as others make it out to be, but it's not really a great album. The title track is the best song, but it's a really unfocused album. Axl really needs Slash, Duff and Izzy to restrain him and help him out.
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85/100
From 01/17/2018 19:41 | #205901
Buckethead and Axl are a great combination. This is a very good/ excellent album despite its reputation as a failure in some circles. Every track with Buckethead is first rate. A truly under appreciated album.
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From 07/07/2016 19:36 | #170824
Whether it's good or bad is almost irrelevant(it's bad, by the way), but the main thing is it's NOT Guns'n'roses, it's Axl Rose on the most expensive and long drawn out ego trip ever.
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70/100
From 04/16/2016 14:33 | #163915
The "Guns n' Roses" tag hindered this album on release, with everyone still not over the "classic" line up. Had it been released by "Axl Rose & The Papercuts" or similar, tracks like "Shackler's Revenge" & "If The World" may have had critics applauding Axl for not resting on his laurels & moving with the times. It doesn't always work perfectly, but much rather this than them endlessly trying to remake an instant classic, the way Rage Against The Machine did (although "Street of Dreams" is admittedly a vintage Axl ballad, but a good one!)
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From 03/08/2016 11:45 | #161571
What a mess...
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75/100
From 09/09/2015 18:14 | #149422
Don't get the bad rating. This is sure very different from old GNR but it brings fresh meat on the table. Axl wrote some beautiful songs for this record like: Better, There Was a Time and Catcher in the Rye. The only thing is that not all the songs are strong enough to build a very solid album. For the ones who approach this album, remember: this is not a easy listen and the album will grow on you if you give it enough time. Finck and Buckethead on guitar are supreme and Axl's voice is not bad at all!
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