Chinese Democracy (studio album) by Guns N' Roses

Chinese Democracy by Guns N' Roses
Year: 2008
Release date: 2008-11-25
Overall rank: 5,463rd   Overall chart historyOverall chart history
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56/100 (from 218 votes)
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Award Top albums of 2008 (92nd)
Award Top albums of the 2000s (1,002nd)
Award Best albums of all time (5,463rd)
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Chinese Democracy is ranked 6th best out of 9 albums by Guns N' Roses on BestEverAlbums.com.

The best album by Guns N' Roses is Appetite For Destruction which is ranked number 115 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 13,814.

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56/100 (from 218 votes)
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70/100
From 09/22/2020 16:57
This is so far from "Appetite For Destruction"! It is almost on another planet. Very few highlights. Disappointing after waiting for so long. Rating (73.21)
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From 08/19/2020 15:45
Two stars only due to Tommy Stinson's bass playing. With no Stinson - no stars.
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55/100
From 04/16/2018 06:10
I don't think it's as bad as others make it out to be, but it's not really a great album. The title track is the best song, but it's a really unfocused album. Axl really needs Slash, Duff and Izzy to restrain him and help him out.
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85/100
From 01/17/2018 19:41
Buckethead and Axl are a great combination. This is a very good/ excellent album despite its reputation as a failure in some circles. Every track with Buckethead is first rate. A truly under appreciated album.
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30/100
From 07/07/2016 19:36
Whether it's good or bad is almost irrelevant(it's bad, by the way), but the main thing is it's NOT Guns'n'roses, it's Axl Rose on the most expensive and long drawn out ego trip ever.
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From 04/16/2016 14:33
The "Guns n' Roses" tag hindered this album on release, with everyone still not over the "classic" line up. Had it been released by "Axl Rose & The Papercuts" or similar, tracks like "Shackler's Revenge" & "If The World" may have had critics applauding Axl for not resting on his laurels & moving with the times. It doesn't always work perfectly, but much rather this than them endlessly trying to remake an instant classic, the way Rage Against The Machine did (although "Street of Dreams" is admittedly a vintage Axl ballad, but a good one!)
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From 03/08/2016 11:45
What a mess...
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75/100
From 09/09/2015 18:14
Don't get the bad rating. This is sure very different from old GNR but it brings fresh meat on the table. Axl wrote some beautiful songs for this record like: Better, There Was a Time and Catcher in the Rye. The only thing is that not all the songs are strong enough to build a very solid album. For the ones who approach this album, remember: this is not a easy listen and the album will grow on you if you give it enough time. Finck and Buckethead on guitar are supreme and Axl's voice is not bad at all!
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From 01/17/2015 16:11
Despite the presence of good ideas in the songwriting process, most of the songs are not memorable and you can feel the excessive length of the album. The result is mediocre.
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95/100
From 01/08/2015 05:26
Great songwriting, grandiose vision. I sure used to love this thing. I gotta say listening again worst part is Buckethead's uninventive guitar playing. But boy is Axl passionate!
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