Duke
by Genesis

Duke by Genesis
Year: 1980
Release date: 1980-03-24
Overall rank: 954th   Overall chart history
Average Rating: 
74/100 (from 439 votes)
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Award Top 20 albums of 1980 (20th)
Award Top albums of of the 1980s (145th)
Award Top 1,000 albums of all time (954th)

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Duke is ranked 6th best out of 34 albums by Genesis on BestEverAlbums.com.

The best album by Genesis is Selling England By The Pound which is ranked number 127 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 10,065.

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Duke
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Overall rank: 954th | 1980s rank: 145th | 1980 rank: 20th  Overall chart history
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Rating:  
100/100
Until this album Genesis music broadly followed mythological themes, even after Peter Gabriel's departure, A trick of the Tail adhered to this ethos... but this album stands alone in their catalogue (at least to me) in that it marks a sea change in their thinking. Not quite yet the pop driven work of the albums that followed, although it's 'geneisis' is here, it still contains a hint of the progressive earlier work in the writing and playing, if not necessarily in the instruments used. As here they begin to mix the emerging synthesiser technology with traditional instruments, creating a unique blend of the two, but the synths are used sparsely and just for colour and shading.
In fact if Duchess is taken along with Phil Collins solo In the Air Tonight, a strong similarity in method and execution can be felt, and the minimal approach to the use of the technology makes for a striong, timeless, and distinctive sound, perhaps among the finest examples of the use of technology from the time.
Duke is a complete work on a unified theme, but this time concerned with the story of the eponymous character and his 'Duchess'... I think you could almost take it as an album version of 'Don't you want Me' by the Human League- The Mogul and the unsypathetic Singer (Could almost serve as a warning to Simon Cowell!)... or is he a stalker who imagines this connection to the singer? the ambiguity allows for both readings i think.
Shorter, more punchy songs than much of their earlier work, but retaining the style... but some of the most memorable tunes they've done with great musical phrases, hooks and melodies.
Deserves to be regarded as good an album genesis ever produced
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Rating:  
90/100
A return to form after the last two albums, which were a bit too romantic, soft, and atmospheric for my taste. Ironically, Duke is more "commercialized" than either of them, but mainly because Collins was turning into a (good) singer-songwriter and had contributed pop tracks like Misunderstanding. There's still quite a lot of prog to go around on this album; I would argue that this album is slightly more prog than pop, whereas the previous two albums were 50/50. The first three songs are a nice pseudo-prog battery, while the finale of Duke's Travels/Duke's End shows that Genesis were still holding on to their roots.

Turn it On Again is a solid, catchy rocker...for what it's worth.
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Rating:  
75/100
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A pretty decent album in an era when I think Genesis were struggling with their identity and were coming to terms with being a three piece. It is an inconsistent batch of songs but there are some absolutely fantastic cuts on this record. The ones I always seem to get drawn to are Behind The Lines, Heathaze, Turn It On Again and Alone Tonight. They all feel extremely cohesive and the instrumental performances on there are phenomenal. I am also a huge fan of Phil Collins vocal performance across the whole album but especially on Alone Tonight as this makes it one of my favourite Genesis songs. The guitar and keyboard work is brilliant as well throughout the whole record with it making the sound feel so full of life and energy which comes straight across to the listener. However, where I think this album struggles is in its style and atmosphere. Just like the group at the time, I think they were a little confused on who they were and so you have a pretty big conflict of style going on all over the record. They are trying to fuse prog and pop but they just didn't seem to be able to do it seamlessly causing it to sound a bit chaotic and very confused at times. Overall, a great album with great songs but it is held back by the fact that it doesn't know what it is and it hasn't aged brilliantly either.
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Rating:  
85/100
This album has the cohesive feel of a prog rock concept album without actual being one. All the songs flow nicely together. It makes for another good "autumn record" (as were "...ant then there were three" and "wind and wuthering"). The instrumentation is often contemplative and building, engrossing even without tales told in narratives like the two duke songs, "duchess", "heathaze" and "man of our times". The hits you would know are maybe "man of our times", "misunderstanding", "turn it on again" and maybe "behind the lines" (reprised by phil collins solo). Check out the pained sadness on "guide vocal" which has one of my all-time favorite common truth lyrics, lifted and summarized from a previous genesis album, "you kill what you fear", or check out bitterly reflected futility of "man of our times" where the only levity comes from a high-pitched synth segment. i love how some of the songs segue into each other, especially the first 3 tracks and the duke suite. A number of songs, like "man of our times", "duchess" and the duke suite sound epic without really being epic statements as "firth of fifth" or "the return of the giant hogweed" were. More understated than abacab, i prefer duke's subtleties more...barely.
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Rating:  
80/100
Edging towards a more straightforward pop sound with each album, duke, is still a very good record. It's really got nothing to do with the Peter Gabriel era anymore, but a band has to move on and I believe they went in the right direction. Turn it on again, is off course the most famous track but there are of plenty of other gems on offer here. Duke, proved that Genesis still had something to offer going into the eighties.
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