Ghosteen (studio album) by Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds

Ghosteen
Ghosteen by Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds
Year: 2019
Release date: 2019-10-04
Overall rank: 1,283rd   Overall chart historyOverall chart history
Average Rating: 
79/100 (from 236 votes)
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Accolades:
Award Top 10 albums of 2019 (7th)
Award Top albums of the 2010s (190th)
Award Best albums of all time (1,283rd)

Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds bestography

Ghosteen is ranked 10th best out of 25 albums by Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds on BestEverAlbums.com.

The best album by Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds is The Boatman's Call which is ranked number 356 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 5,563.

Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds album bestography « Higher ranked (1,033rd) This album (1,283rd) Lower ranked (1,562nd) »
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Average Rating: 
79/100 (from 236 votes)
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This album is rated in the top 2% of all albums on BestEverAlbums.com. This album has a Bayesian average rating of 79.5/100, a mean average of 79.4/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 79.8/100. The standard deviation for this album is 13.5.

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90/100
From 09/04/2020 19:33
I always seem to rate nick cave albums highly but even though I consider myself a fan, I don't listen to him often, I have to really be in the mood. Therefore when I first had a listen to part of this when it was released, I really wasn't fussed at all. Right now it sounds fantastic for all the reasons others have said.
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From 05/17/2020 11:16
Beautiful album! Very emotional from start to end.
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60/100
From 03/21/2020 22:55
A little too slow for me. There isn’t much variety between the songs. I’m not the biggest fan of the vocals but I appreciate the passion. You can feel the anguish throughout the album. The lyrics are the best part of the album, in my opinion, but there isn’t enough else happening for me.
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65/100
From 02/03/2020 03:01
It pains me to rate this album so low. Not only is it a heartbreaking, deep look at loss and mourning, but it's also really beautiful. The shimmering synths sound just like the cover looks - alive and crisp. But there's just too much here, and there's not enough variety. The first couple songs are great, especially "Bright Horses." I had to stop listening after that one when I was at work for fear of breaking out in tears in the middle of the work day. The opener finds Cave in a mode that he's often in on this album, spinning abstract stories out of really specific, familiar components. Nowhere does he do this better than on the closer, "Hollywood," which is one of the 5-10 best songs he's ever written. It would be in that club even just with the first half, but the second half, and it's heartrending story where you can tell Cave is nearly in tears during his falsetto as he's both assuring us it gets better while also begging that things will get better, absolutely pushes it over the top.

So yeah, it's a shame that for the most part the rest of this album is so samey. I probably like every song here, but listening to it all in a row is, frankly, a chore. There are tremendous moments that catch you off guard, like "Mama Bear holds the remote, Papa Bear just floats, and Baby Bear is gone to the moon in a boat." These moments pull you back in as you're drifting off, but the great moments like this are too spread out in minimal repetitive passages. This album is a landmark and a career highlight. But unfortunately I have no desire to hear it again.
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90/100
From 12/31/2019 20:18
Probably the most heartbreakingly beautiful album I have ever heard. Nick Cave displays all the pain and anguish of losing a child in these intimate and extremely personal songs. They sound nothing like Cave has ever done before and yet the record feels like the final part of a musical trilogy that started with "Push the sky away" (with "Skeleton tree" in the middle) although because of the lyrical issues at stake here I doubt that that was ever Cave's intention. Yes, it's hard listening, but it will become a classic and another great Nick Cave album although it's the one he didn't want but had to make.
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From 12/12/2019 10:52
As a born and bred Australian I love Nick Cave and Warren Ellis and their collective tunes have pretty much sound tracked my life

Unfortunately I found this latest offering a 68 minute slog

I really wanted to like this album but try as I might it became more difficult each time I tried. Its far from a bad album , I just found the entire experience ... slow. In saying that I acknowledge the pain infused within this album following the horrible family tragedy. It's simply a matter of personal opinion I didn't enjoy this as a whole experience

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Save you the trouble ...

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100/100
From 12/02/2019 21:26
As a fan of Nick Cave I am truly impressed that on his 17th studio album Cave and the bad seeds have released one of their heartbreaking, beautiful, introspective records to date.

A perfect album experience
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30/100
From 11/27/2019 18:34
I love Nick Cave (and the Bad Seeds). If my small, meaningless, contribution to the ridiculously dithyrambic reception to this new album is to be downright negative, so be it. This double album is really, honestly- and it pains me to say so- one of the most boring albums I have ever heard. Certainly the lowest point ever in their- to this day near impeccable- discography. The more I try to listen to it, the more rejecting I get, with a passion. The very definition of boredom set to "music". One star and a half for the glorious past.
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60/100
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From 11/16/2019 05:09
Given how textural and ambient this is, Ghosteen certainly lives up to its name. And yeah. It's a deeply affecting reflection on mortality and loss. What else would you expect? It's great.
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