Old Songs New Songs
by Family (UK)
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Family (UK) bestography
Old Songs New Songs is ranked 7th best out of 11 albums by Family (UK) on BestEverAlbums.com.
The best album by Family (UK) is Music In A Doll's House which is ranked number 3992 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 360.
(N.B. Bestographies include all albums by an artist (and their variations), but do not include albums ranked outside the top 100,000).
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Old Songs New Songs track list
The tracks on this album have an average rating of 76 out of 100 (all tracks have been rated).
Old Songs New Songs rankings
| Year | Source | Chart | Rank | Rank Score |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2025 | tim0505 | Top 40 Music Albums of 1971 | 34/40 | 1 |
| 2025 | Johnnyo | Top 100 Music Albums of 1971 | 68/100 | 2 |
| 2025 | dukeboxkool | Top 100 Music Albums of 1971 | 31/100 | 4 |
| 2024 | Steppenwolf666 | 1971 2ND 100 | 88/99 | - |
| 2020 | Rovers | Top 67 Music Albums of 1971 | 38/67 | 2 |
| 2011 | Dario Marchini | Top 10 Greatest Music Albums | 10/10 | - |
| Total Charts: The total number of charts that this album has appeared in. | 6 | |||
| Total Rank Score: The total rank score. | 8 | |||
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| Rating | Date updated | Member | Album ratings | Avg. album rating |
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| ! | 04/25/2022 15:47 | tim0505 | 4,348 | 82/100 |
| ! | 01/19/2019 09:14 | Pluto11 | 11,762 | 72/100 |
| ! | 09/03/2018 16:53 | TodFitz | 27,325 | 63/100 |
| ! | 03/24/2017 02:30 | BorderFreeAndrew | 14,546 | 74/100 |
| ! | 08/09/2016 15:28 | Steppenwolf666 | 9,937 | 89/100 |
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This album has a Bayesian average rating of 71.1/100, a mean average of 70.4/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 70.4/100. The standard deviation for this album is 15.3.
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"Old Songs New Songs" was originally a compilation album consisting of singles and alternate versions of album tracks. This is why the album regularly cited as an original album, as there is no direct overlap in relation to the four albums Family had released at the release of it in 1971.
However you categorize the album, it belongs among Family's strongest. Perhaps the most homogeneous, without any weak numbers.
Besides the very fine single-tracks "Hometown," "No Mule's Fool" and "Good Friend of Mine" it is a scoop to get "Observations From a Hill" with Roger Chapman on lead vocals.
The only annoyance is that the songs are not remastered to the same fine sound quality, as the group's other albums. Comparing CD 1 containing the original "Old Songs New Songs", with the other CDs on the box, it is very obvious to notice the difference.
Apart from these alternate versions, the box contains no tracks from the group's first two albums, which is slightly odd, since these are among the band's finest. Has probably got something to do with rights.
Otherwise the build-up is a good mixture of great album tracks, singles and previously unreleased demos. I you do not absolutely need to have everything with the group, you are with this box well covered.
There is a fine and detailed biography of the group, old interviews, photos, etc. If you wish to know where the individual songs originally come from it requires a little extra research, as this is not listed on the box.
All in all a fine release, though it is a little frustrating that the original "Old Songs New Songs" numbers do not sound as good as the rest.
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