The Firstborn Is Dead
by Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds

The Firstborn Is Dead by Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds
Year: 1985
Release date: 1985-06-03
Overall rank: 3,653rd   Overall chart history
Average Rating: 
74/100 (from 193 votes)
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Accolades:
Award Top albums of 1985 (47th)
Award Top albums of of the 1980s (535th)
Award Best albums of all time (3,653rd)

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Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds bestography

The Firstborn Is Dead is ranked 16th best out of 30 albums by Nick Cave on BestEverAlbums.com.

The best album by Nick Cave is Skeleton Tree which is ranked number 369 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 4,479.

Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds album bestography « Higher ranked (2,013th)
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The Firstborn Is Dead
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The Firstborn Is Dead rankings summary
Overall rank: 3,653rd | 1980s rank: 535th | 1985 rank: 47th  Overall chart history
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From dihansse 12/28/2021 17:40 in My discoveries per year
“Two albums of 1985 I listened to: An album I already own: This is the first Sisters album I bought and since then I'm a fan not in the least because I also saw them live just after that. Their combination of the deep baritone singing of Eldritch, the great base playing and the goth atmosphere while…”
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90/100
From 06/26/2026 18:54 | #315076
Pares down the gnarlier edges of From Her to Eternity but continues its exploration of American traditions in music and lyrics. The Firstborn Is Dead may not be as visceral as its predecessor, but it's no less colorful and absorbing. What it ultimately proves is that Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds have a sustainable and malleable sensibility whose potency has not diminished one bit. (Edited)
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From 09/09/2024 08:40 | #305199
Too depressing and dark,, many consider this a masterpiece, it might be, b ut not for me,, (Edited)
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95/100
I think this album is the most underrated and not appreciated of Nick Cave. It is not only an attempt to play blues music. All songs have that much space and quietness to succumb the ominous violence. And even the Dylan cover of Wanted Man breathes heavenly under the impression of The Birthday Party. By the way: all musicians on this record are absolutely great and worth to watch their career (Edited)
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85/100
The follow up to, from her to eternity, the firstborn is dead, is Nick Cave's blues album. It's full of blues imagery, especially on opener, tupelo, about the stormy night when Elvis and Jesse Presley were born. Elsewhere, there's the brilliant, black crow king, the superb, say goodbye to the little girl tree, and closing track, blind lemon Jefferson. Knockin' on Joe, is also a great brooding number. The only weak moment is the slightly boring Dylan cover, wanted man. All in all, another essential Nick Cave record.
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80/100
A haunting, underrated album. "Tupelo" is definitely the standout track but everything is worth a listen.

Favorite tracks: "Tupelo", "Knockin' On Joe"
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