This Nation's Saving Grace
by The Fall

This Nation's Saving Grace by The Fall
Year: 1985
Release date: 1985-09-23
Overall rank: 945th   Overall chart history
Average Rating: 
78/100 (from 455 votes)
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Accolades:
Award Top 20 albums of 1985 (15th)
Award Top albums of of the 1980s (142nd)
Award Top 1,000 albums of all time (945th)

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This Nation's Saving Grace rankings summary
Overall rank: 945th | 1980s rank: 142nd | 1985 rank: 15th  Overall chart history
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Average Rating: 
78/100 (from 455 votes)
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07/26/2026 02:28 xhitmanx  Ratings distribution  1,60475/100
 
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This album is rated in the top 2% of all albums on BestEverAlbums.com. This album has a Bayesian average rating of 78.1/100, a mean average of 76.8/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 78.2/100. The standard deviation for this album is 17.1.


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From BestEverAlbums 3 days ago in Chart of the day (#5431): By Amirkhosro
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From dihansse 03/25/2026 21:32 in My discoveries per year
Two albums of 1985 I listened to: First an album I already own/know: I've got a bit of a love/hate relationship with this band which is often described as similar to Pavement. But if I had to choose I certainly wouldn't choose The Fall. But nevertheless this band and this album have their place in…
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From matterhornrider 02/13/2026 00:52 in What album are you listening to? (cont.)
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From 09/25/2022 11:51 | #289951
A very repetitive listen that does get uninteresting by the time you get to the end but there is still many things to love on here. One of those things is the sound as this is amongst the most consistent albums in the 80's in terms of atmosphere. The whole thing is dark, gloomy and feels slightly dystopian. It does a great job of really dragging you into the environment which is primarily done through the use of the heavier instrumentation. Add on top of this a monotone and deep vocal it makes for a unique experience. The music itself isn't fantastic however with there being quite a lot of filler tracks on here which aren't really of any significance to the record at all. I do feel like there could be a lot more done on the record as well with it feeling a bit light and empty in places. It is need of a spark that just isn't present on here. Overall, atmospherically this album is great but the actual musical quality is quite poor and boring.
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90/100
From 03/10/2022 05:43 | #282590
Right now this is my favorite Fall record. I just pulled the cassette when I logged in to see this is the album of the day. Coincidentally this is a good starting point if your a new listener.
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80/100
From 05/11/2019 17:19 | #236139
couldn't agree more with the comment which says this has been singled out as the great fall album by some critics for no obvious reason. this is a good fall album but it's nowhere near their best of the '80s.
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From 02/13/2018 19:00 | #207954
A proper marmite record. I love marmite.
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