Twin Fantasy (Face To Face) (studio album) by Car Seat Headrest

Twin Fantasy (Face To Face) by Car Seat Headrest
Year: 2018
Release date: 2018-02-16
Overall rank: 288th   Overall chart historyOverall chart history
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82/100 (from 788 votes)
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Twin Fantasy (Face To Face) is ranked 2nd best out of 17 albums by Car Seat Headrest on

The best album by Car Seat Headrest is Teens Of Denial which is ranked number 216 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 8,226.

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From 03/02/2023 00:11
There are a lot of good moments on here but there are also quite a lot of parts where I found myself disinterested and not engaged with the music. When it is good it is great though with Sober To Death, Bodys and Cute Thing being highlights for me. The guitar work is brilliant on here as well and they sound so infectious to listen to. This alone brings me back quite a bit but I am a huge fan of the vocal as well which suits the style incredibly well. Despite this, it can sound a little generic at times and not very unique compared to music in the same genre. Overall, it is an up and down listen but it is one you can have a lot of fun with.
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From 11/07/2022 08:36
Album Rating: 90.70

1.My Boy (Twin Fantasy). 83
2.Beach Life-In-Death. 90
3.Stop Smoking (We Love You). 94
4.Sober To Death. 98
5.Nervous Young Inhumans. 93
6.Bodys. 99
7.Cute Thing. 87
8.High To Death. 86
9.Famous Prophets (Stars). 93
10.Twin Fantasy (Those Boys). 84
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From 04/11/2022 11:30
Rockrockrock, yea
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From 02/20/2022 06:05
I know that my mid-20s is a bit young to be too old for anything, but I don't relate to this album anymore. I just don't. Twin Fantasy soundtracked a very specific moment in my life: a period where I was reflecting on a long-term relationship, coming to terms with feelings of extreme indifference towards my higher education, and facing down the fact that maybe I'm being way too dramatic about all of this shit.

And that's what Twin Fantasy is: a reflection on what it means to mythologize your relationships. Will Toledo set out to re-record his 2011 opus Twin Fantasy with proper studio equipment (and, more importantly, 6 or 7 more years of recording experience), but had more in mind than improving the sound. Through new lyrics and the careful injection of melodic callbacks, Toledo managed to capture exactly how it feels to come to terms with your younger self's failure to successfully process romantic trauma. It's a reflection on a prior attempt at reflection.

Given that, it's amusing that the 2011 original was dubbed "Mirror to Mirror" while the substantially more meta revision is "Face to Face." What the 2018 version succeeded in doing was helping me come face to face with my own tendency towards self-mythologizing, a message that seems lost on many of Toledo's fans.

The whole point of Twin Fantasy Face to Face is helping you no longer relate to Twin Fantasy. It's making you a better partner, a better ex-partner, and a person who lives in the present rather than making a vision-quest of the past.
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From 12/22/2021 21:33
So, it’s another angst-filled album about young, unrequited love….

What sets this one apart is the band’s ability to explore creative song techniques while coloring inside the lines of a traditional rock band construct. It’s, like, really fun songwriting…except for the “hey, I’m lonely and miserable” lyrics. Really good record.
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From 11/03/2021 19:25
I know this has a cult following and that a lot of people are into it. It sounds old, and doesn’t hold up. Self indulgent. Special moments, though.
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From 09/30/2021 07:57
My personal favorite from Car Seat Headrest. Right from the get go I'm hit with a story that hits close to home and makes me yearn to return to that time in my life. The album tells a story of young (gay) love while delving into everything else that goes along with a coming of age tale. While I may laugh at the chorus of Bodys, in truth I felt exactly the same way about aging when I was his age.Not a single song even worth considering skipping, and that makes it stand out above Teens of Denial in my eyes. "Is it the chorus yet? No..." and "I would sleep naked next to you naked" are some of my favorite lyrics of all time. Not a single song even worth considering skipping, and that makes it stand out above Teens of Denial in my eyes. Trying to pick out favorites is hard, but I'd say "My Boy", "Stop Smoking" and "Cute Thing" are the biggest highlights for me.
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From 06/14/2021 13:32
This album proves the crazy theory that a song is not necessarily more interesting just because it is longer. A mixture of Indie laziness with Prog self-indulgence.
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From 02/27/2021 07:44
It makes me cry almost every time. Toledo's vocals, the catchy guitars, the mid-80s synths, all these elements fits perfectly in every single moment of the record. The lyrics portrait perfectly what does it mean to be in love from the prospective of an adolescent and I recognize myself a lot on it.
"Bodys", the piano line of "Cute Thing", the last 6 minutes of "Famous Prophets (stars)" are emotionally some of the highest points of the last decade.
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From 01/06/2021 11:57
The lyrics are a bit angsty. I would have loved this back in 2008-2009. I still enjoyed the sound though. Not bad. Teens of Denial sounds a bit better.
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