Whole New Mess
by Angel Olsen

Whole New Mess by Angel Olsen
Year: 2020
Release date: 2020-08-28
Overall rank: 10,498th   Overall chart history
Average Rating: 
71/100 (from 51 votes)
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Accolades:
Award Top albums of 2020 (179th)
Award Top albums of of the 2020s (892nd)
Award Best albums of all time (10,498th)

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Angel Olsen bestography

Whole New Mess is ranked 6th best out of 11 albums by Angel Olsen on BestEverAlbums.com.

The best album by Angel Olsen is My Woman which is ranked number 682 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 2,519.

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Overall rank: 10,498th | 2020s rank: 892nd | 2020 rank: 179th  Overall chart history
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71/100 (from 51 votes)
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From 10/28/2020 19:00 | #259883
Ordinarily I’m not a fan of reimagined albums such as this one, however I’m going to make an exception here because its so darn good to point where if it were a stand alone release it would contend for AOTY

A stripped-down gem ‘Whole New Mess’ see’s AO rework 9 tracks from 2019s dense’All Mirrors’ plus include 2 new originals with only her warbling voice and guitar as accompaniment that harkens back to ‘Burn Your Fire For No Witness’ and ‘Strange Cactus’

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From 04/14/2021 14:37 | #268529
I think the original versions are better than most of these. It's a neat sound but I think a lot is lost without as much being gained. "Chance" doesn't have nearly the same impact as I think it does in its other version but "Waving, Smiling" is a nice rendition.
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