3rd (studio album) by Big Star

3rd
3rd by Big Star
Year: 1978
Overall rank: 575th   Overall chart historyOverall chart history
Average Rating: 
80/100 (from 388 votes)
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Accolades:
Award Top 10 albums of 1978 (10th)
Award Top albums of the 1970s (137th)
Award Top 1,000 albums of all time (575th)
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Big Star - Third/Sister Lovers CD Pop Power-pop Rock Alex Chilton
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Thank You, Friends: Big Star's Third Live... [2 CD/Blu-ray], New Music
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Big Star bestography

3rd is ranked 2nd best out of 15 albums by Big Star on BestEverAlbums.com.

The best album by Big Star is #1 Record which is ranked number 409 in the list of all-time albums with a total rank score of 4,813.

Big Star album bestography « Higher ranked (409th) This album (575th) Lower ranked (707th) »
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This album is rated in the top 2% of all albums on BestEverAlbums.com. This album has a Bayesian average rating of 79.9/100, a mean average of 78.9/100, and a trimmed mean (excluding outliers) of 80.0/100. The standard deviation for this album is 16.1.

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50/100
From 05/16/2020 14:02
Really wasn't into it at first, just seemed a collection of average mid 70s songs, but then it seemed to kick in (me or the album, not sure) with Oh Dana and Holocaust. Liked For You as well.
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From 11/11/2018 04:40
A genius musician puts his deteriorating state on tape with haunting, beautiful results. Some of the most sincere, depressing ballads ever are here in "Holocaust" and "Big Black Car." The band is only barely at all tied together, and yet everything sounds deliberate and perfect.
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90/100
From 07/21/2018 12:45
Heartbroken by the lack of commercial success, the band's frontman decided to put out one more solid record before quitting, and the result is surprisingly decent. Half of the tracks on here are dark and depressing, while the rest are quite catchy and cheerful. Some might say that this is the best of Big Star's classic trilogy. I definitely agree with those people's opinions.
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85/100
From 02/15/2018 00:26
As a huge R.E.M fan I've had this album and band on my radar for a very long time (R.E.M have cited Big Star as major influencers).I finally got around to checking 3rd/Sister Lovers out and it did not disappoint . I love this album

The version I listened to was the 18 track version on SPOTIFY which included the 14 tracks here on BEA but in a different order plus 'Native Boy' , 'Till The End Of The Day' , Dream Lover' and 'Downs'. Every track on this album bar 'Native Boy ' and 'Downs' (both of which sounded incomplete) was sublime . I particularly loved the more atmospheric moody songs which make up the majority of the album

3 years ago in January 2015 BEA user JasonZaia posted an excellent comment outlining how he interpreted the album track order and inclusion considering Big Star never really completed this album .... please check out his post before reading on . So what I did was to order his suggested track listing on a Spotify Playlist and listened through . What I discovered was this order completely changed the album context making it a wholly moody atmospheric experience with all power pop elements removed, as I said previously I love the moody pieces and I loved this playlist

However I recon some power pop needs to be included to better represent Big Star as whole so as a result I would like to propose MY alternative track listing which leaves off the 3 weakest tracks 'O Dana' / 'Native Boy' & 'Downs'

Side 1
1/ 'Stroke It Noel' ( love this as an opener)
2/ 'Till The End of The Day' ( power pop inclusion)
3/ 'For You'
4/ 'Holocaust'
5/ 'Kanga Roo' (Holocaust and Kanga Roo need to stay together)
6/ 'You Cant Have Me'
7/ 'Thank You Friends' ( nice way to close side 1)

Side 2
1/ ' Kizza Me' ( power pop opener)
2/ 'Big Black Car'
3/ 'Nighttime'
4/ 'Jesus Christ' ( up tempo to break things up)
5/ 'Blue Moon'
6/ 'Dream Lover' ( gorgeous song a MUST inclusion)
7/ 'Take Care'
8/ 'Femme Fatale' ( this cover just seems to work as a closer )

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From 01/13/2018 03:34
I sense that this is an album I would really get into after three or four listens, even as it didn't overwhelm me on the first pass.
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From 01/26/2017 19:40
Third/Sister Lovers is compelling and a surprisingly pleasant listen.
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From 12/25/2016 22:18
A very emotional album
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100/100
From 07/15/2016 18:28
Parke Putterbaugh of Rolling Stone once described this album as Alex Chilton's "untidy masterpiece" and noted that to listen to it is to be "plunged into a maelstrom of conflicting emotions." That seems about right. This is where the jangling guitars and power pop of Big Star's earlier work begins to fragment and fray, but in a way that is shatteringly gorgeous. My favorite track here is the stark twelve-string guitar ballad "Kanga-Roo," where Chilton's reedy vocals hint at the looming demise of one of rock's greatest and most influential bands.
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From 06/19/2016 10:07
Being a huge Big Star fan, I have no idea why it took me so long to get into this record. But gracious I'm glad I eventually did. It's such a hauntingly beautiful collection of songs, with such a loose and almost maddening feel. With that said however, the album hangs together very well with a sense of coherence, impressive considering the album was never properly finished. Every song on here is brilliant, but the standout for me is the haunting Big Black Car. Nothing short of a masterpiece, though so are the other two Big Star discs.
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From 11/26/2015 01:18
More experimental and stronger than the first two albums. Definitely a cross between Experimental Rock and Baroque Pop, instead of Power Pop with the exception of two or three tracks harking back to the earlier days. Best song is "Nightime" or "Kangaroo."
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